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By *arconi  (M)  over a year ago

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Will it still be legal to import poppers from France via the Internet after April 6th?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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You'd be guilty of importing an illegal substance.

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*etropolis By *etropolis   profile verified by photo (M)  over a year ago

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Yes - it will be illegal to possess them

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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It will soon be law in the UK for poppers to be illegal, if the motion gets passed.

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By *poty   profile verified by photo (M)  over a year ago

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I think you can own it ,but you can't buy or sale it. And you can't share it with any one. They are going to look at it again in July . Maybe things will change arfter that time.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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what do poppers actually do, beside give a headache.

Do they interfere with driving after using?

Will they give me a limo dick?

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M)  over a year ago

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All they did for me was make me feel a bit like I'd drunk too much alcohol and gave me a blinding headache afterwards. They can be potentially lethal if taken with Viagra or similar erectile enhancement products, and probably don't mix too well with other prescription drugs either.

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By *amden man  (M)  over a year ago

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Doctors prescribing poppers!!!! Are you serious? They are due to be banned in a few weeks.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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"what do poppers actually do, beside give a headache.

Do they interfere with driving after using?

Will they give me a limo dick?"

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If you don't know what poppers do why are you recommending them in another thread???

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*oyboy180 By *oyboy180   profile verified by photo (M)  over a year ago

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I hope they get banned sorry and all..

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M)  over a year ago

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"Doctors prescribing poppers!!!! Are you serious? They are due to be banned in a few weeks."

I don't know if that was aimed at me but I did not say doctors prescribed poppers. When my GP prescribed Cialis for me he gave me a lecture about the evils of poppers. Need not have bothered as I tried them once and hated the side affects.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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One of the reasons “poppers” are on a banned list is because, when some expert were called before the Home Affairs select Committee they expressed the fears of those “poppers” which have been confiscated at various airports and at a number of Docks in the UK and upon analysis, they were found to contain harmful chemicals which in some cases would be harmful to vital organs.

They have also found through various police sweeps in the country backstreet “labs” producing poppers again with an assortment of chemicals again exceptionally harmful to vital organs.

The Government are going to look again at the question of these substances and a review will now take place after the summer recess. There will I expect have to be some form of regulation on the production and distribution of these poppers if they are to come off the banned list, I think this will be hard to regulate.

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*astertim By *astertim   profile verified by photo (M)  over a year ago

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It's just been announced by the thingy thing of drugs misuse that poppers do not have a psychotic effect and don't influence the nervous system so they won't be banned...

Have a look on the pink paper website...

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By *obbo-bi1  (M)  over a year ago

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The Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs however said that despite what ministers believed when they passed the new law, they had not banned poppers.

READ MORE

Poppers should not be banned, MPs say

“The ACMD’s consensus view is that a psychoactive substance has a direct action on the brain and that substances having peripheral effects, such as those caused by alkyl nitrites, do not directly stimulate or depress the central nervous system,” the council said in a report to ministers.

“In the ACMD’s view, alkyl nitrites (“poppers”) do not fall within the scope of the current definition of a “psychoactive substance” in the Psychoactive Substances Act 2016.

“Consequently, the ACMD does not see a need for an exemption under the Psychoactive Substances Act 2016.”

Seems that those that think they know it all, actually dont.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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If you actually read what I wrote rather than just assuming something, I said there was going to be a review. The letter to the Minister Karen Bradley dated today is not a pre-emptive request for the ban to be lifted before it starts on the 6th April. For the ban to be lifted it would have to go before the House of Commons again, this will not happen before the summer recess.

The letter to the Home Office from the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs, which sets out their review of alkyl nitrites, for those who have partial sight problems IT’S A REVIEW nothing more, the law kicks into place on April 6th.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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Yet drunken yobs can cause terror in the skies on planes

Scum can commit atrocities and get.legal aid paid by us to get away with it

Can't do this or that

This government needs to get its priorities right wonder what the kill joys will ban next??

Me wearing a paper hat and eating a jelly baby??

Yep thought so

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By *r.Savvyguy   profile verified by photo (M)  over a year ago

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Lets not get into any political debate.

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By *ublet07  (M)  over a year ago

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wonder what the kill joys will ban next??

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Breathing probably

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By *ewcocol  (M)  over a year ago

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"Yes - it will be illegal to possess them"

Possession will not be illegal it's the sale, and therefore by definition the purchase, which is being prohibited. Of course as we know a bottle of poppers once opened quickly degrades so should the ban remain in place it will become difficult to argue as time passes that you have had a significant amount stored before the ban was put in place.

It's so long since I've used them that I couldn't say if the plastic covering over the bottle has a date stamp on it, but if it has then there may spring up a lucrative market in selling empty pre April bottles for decanting.

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*indsey bear By *indsey bear  (M)  over a year ago

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"Lets not get into any political debate."

Any decision to make poppers illegal, whatever the reasons, is a political one.

The elites in British society always get nervous when the lower classes do these kinds of things. All that`s changed are the chemicals involved. What people do with their lives/bodies is not just a question of personal/moral choice. It has consequences far beyond one person.

If it`s on the grounds of harm, then it naturally raises the question of a much bigger harm, alcohol.

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M)  over a year ago

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"Lets not get into any political debate."

Good idea. Politics has been rearing its ugly head on this site all too often recently.

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By *ewcocol  (M)  over a year ago

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"Lets not get into any political debate.

Good idea. Politics has been rearing its ugly head on this site all too often recently."

The problem doesn't seem to be the topic of the debate, just that far too many cannot differentiate between a debate and an argument. I enjoy trying to overcome the other person's position using logic, reasoning and evidence in an attempt to get them to see the other side. Unfortunately all too often that they see it as an attack on them personally. It is terribly frustrating when that happens and nothing can be achieved.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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If you don't know what poppers do why are you recommending them in another thread???"

I am fully aware what poppers are meant to do hence my suggestion in another thread that they relax muscles when an uptight bottom is fucked for the first time.

I openly admit I have never used poppers as I just relaxed when I had my first cock.

My question was based on side effects, as a non user will they make my dick limp? will I have side effects if I am on other medication? If I had a pacemaker would it matter?

So asking relevant questions in search of knowledge is one thing and giving advice on what one already knows is another.

I hope that answers your question?

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M)  over a year ago

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"what do poppers actually do, beside give a headache.

Do they interfere with driving after using?

Will they give me a limo dick?"

I know it's a typo [we all make them but I had to laugh at 'limo dick'. Does it mean your cock gets exceptionally large, fast, brash, plush and uses plenty of fuel

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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"what do poppers actually do, beside give a headache.

Do they interfere with driving after using?

Will they give me a limo dick?

I know it's a typo [we all make them but I had to laugh at 'limo dick'. Does it mean your cock gets exceptionally large, fast, brash, plush and uses plenty of fuel "

Lol, I wish

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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Most cheap poppers you inhale now are solvent and are no different than what ever else sniffers put up their noses..

Avoid

Amyl nitrate is used to thin blood so that's the rush you get its used in head injuries etc as a way of stopping blood clots during surgery.

Avoid cheap poppers

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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I've always avoided them since I went on beta-blockers.

Amyl nitrate used to be used for treating angina and (hopefully) avoiding an impending heart attack - relaxing the constrictions in heart arteries I guess. Whatever, I'd prefer to use my current GTN spray for my angina, and just RELAX for any other sphincter!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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Darling there's dome awful likkle men from.the ministry creeping around trying to put an end to awlll our fun n games

Dispose of them will you theres a,dear

No not me no no no

Please not the naught step please

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Blast

Sigh!!!!!

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By *poty   profile verified by photo (M)  over a year ago

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The latest online news says ,that poppers are not now going to be banned on the 6 of April . The goverment have takern them of the list . It turns out the not danger enough to ban them. I hope Blue Knight confirms this on the site. it's so hard to find the truth . Let's hope so.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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So CD BITCH, you think that Amyl Nitrate thins blood, how wrong you are, the most commonly prescribed anticoagulant is warfarin. Newer types of anticoagulants are also available and are becoming increasingly common. These include:

apixaban (Eliquis)

dabigatran (Pradaxa)

rivaroxaban (Xarelto)

Amyl Nitrate used to prescribed for those suffering from Angina (chest pains) which is caused when by too little blood reaching the heart. Amyl Nitrate used to be supplied in thin glass capsules and when broken under the nose the vapours from the liquid would be inhaled and this would relief the chest pains. The inhalation of the vapours causes a rise in the blood flow to the brain as well as the heart and sometimes this caused slight dizziness. This is why Amyl Nitrate was discontinued for angina because of the adverse effects from long term excessive usage including anaemia, weakening of the immune system and in some cases the loss of vision, this why it was dropped by the medical profession. In its place the NHS brought in the GTN spray to be used by angina suffers.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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The Psychoactive Substances Act 2016 comes into force on the 6th April 2016 and having made a telephone call this evening I am informed that poppers are still on the banned list, despite whatever the papers today are saying. In this Act “psychoactive substance” means any substance which—

1. is capable of producing a psychoactive effect in a person who consumes it, and

2. is not an exempted substance (see section 3).

3. For the purposes of this Act a substance produces a psychoactive effect in a person if, by stimulating or depressing the person’s central nervous system, it affects the person’s mental functioning or emotional state; and references to a substance’s psychoactive effects are to be read accordingly.

4. For the purposes of this Act,a person consumes a substance if the person causes or allows the substance, or fumes given off by the substance, to enter the person’s body in any way.

There is to be a review on poppers and if there is to be a change, this change can be done through a Statutory Instrument; this allows the Secretary of State through provisions of an Act of Parliament to be brought into force or altered without Parliament having to pass a new Act. Through various agencies The Home Office is minded to look urgently at this………..so Mr Purvy you may still be able to get your poppers but would suggest you wait to hear the news when the Government publishing’s the list after April 6th 2016

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"Lets not get into any political debate.

Good idea. Politics has been rearing its ugly head on this site all too often recently.

The problem doesn't seem to be the topic of the debate, just that far too many cannot differentiate between a debate and an argument. I enjoy trying to overcome the other person's position using logic, reasoning and evidence in an attempt to get them to see the other side. Unfortunately all too often that they see it as an attack on them personally. It is terribly frustrating when that happens and nothing can be achieved. "

Good point. But despite growing numbers at university since the eighties, reasoned argument seems a fading art. So many seem to get by with simply having an opinion on a subject.

Not only do you learn how to argue at university, realizing all arguments have their strengths and weaknesses and in many areas there is no final, absolutely correct position, you`re also taught a certain detachment; that contrary arguments and opinions are not some kind of personal attack.

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*t_smash By *t_smash   profile verified by photo (M)  over a year ago

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"The Psychoactive Substances Act 2016 comes into force on the 6th April 2016 and having made a telephone call this evening I am informed that poppers are still on the banned list, despite whatever the papers today are saying. In this Act “psychoactive substance” means any substance which—

1. is capable of producing a psychoactive effect in a person who consumes it, and

2. is not an exempted substance (see section 3).

3. For the purposes of this Act a substance produces a psychoactive effect in a person if, by stimulating or depressing the person’s central nervous system, it affects the person’s mental functioning or emotional state; and references to a substance’s psychoactive effects are to be read accordingly.

4. For the purposes of this Act,a person consumes a substance if the person causes or allows the substance, or fumes given off by the substance, to enter the person’s body in any way.

There is to be a review on poppers and if there is to be a change, this change can be done through a Statutory Instrument; this allows the Secretary of State through provisions of an Act of Parliament to be brought into force or altered without Parliament having to pass a new Act. Through various agencies The Home Office is minded to look urgently at this………..so Mr Purvy you may still be able to get your poppers but would suggest you wait to hear the news when the Government publishing’s the list after April 6th 2016

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Its point number 3 thats the important one. The ACMD state that in their oppinion poppers do NOT have the required (stimulating or depressing) effect on the central nervous system and thus do not full foul of point 1 and so are not covered by the act.

However as they are not on the exemp list the only way (unless they get added to the exempt list) to be 100% sure there not covered is by a test case in court but that would require someone to still be selling them after April 6th, get 'nicked' for it then refuse to pay the fine and demand a court appreance. Should someone go down that route armed with the report from the governments own drugs advisary council's report its unlikly they would loose (assuming the summery i read in yesterdays indi is accurate (as i havent seen ACMD report myself))

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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Sorry if this sounds utterly pedantic but amyl nitrate (with an "a") is a fuel additive and has nothing to do with poppers or medicine.

Amyl nitrite (with an "i") is the original poppers substance but you'd be hard pushed to find it in any UK sold poppers as its medical drug classification would make it a controlled substance. Virtually all poppers these days contain the inferior isopropyl nitrite.

Whatever's in them they've always just done nothing for me but give me a banging headache.

Incidentally, the BBC reported last night that they'd been told by the Home Office that enforcement of the new act has been delayed and that it won't now come into effect on 6th April so this may all be moot for a little while yet.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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There is no truth in your comment regarding the The Psychoactive Substances Act 2016 being delayed. This Act received Royal Assent in January 2016 and becomes law on 6th April 2016.

No one from the Home Office has made any statement on the BBC news with regards to the Act being delayed.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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Au contraire, it was clearly stated on last night's episode of Law In Action on BBC Radio 4.

Available on iPlayer if you want to listen to the words coming out of Joshua Rozenberg's mouth.

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By *ewcocol  (M)  over a year ago

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"Lets not get into any political debate.

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Good point. But despite growing numbers at university since the eighties, reasoned argument seems a fading art. So many seem to get by with simply having an opinion on a subject.

Not only do you learn how to argue at university, realizing all arguments have their strengths and weaknesses and in many areas there is no final, absolutely correct position, you`re also taught a certain detachment; that contrary arguments and opinions are not some kind of personal attack.

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Indeed, and it is quite common in debating societies for a speaker to take a position that is the opposite of their opinion in reality. The point of which is to improve the person's debating skill.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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"There is no truth in your comment regarding the The Psychoactive Substances Act 2016 being delayed. This Act received Royal Assent in January 2016 and becomes law on 6th April 2016.

No one from the Home Office has made any statement on the BBC news with regards to the Act being delayed."

I think you will have to give people some leeway about all this. This legislation like most passed by the current govt nearly always seems to be riddled with inaccuracies with very little research / impact assessment done beforehand. Then you have ministers like Nicky Morgan stating that announcement of PIP cuts in the budget are apparently a consultation process. They don't seem to know what they are doing, so is it any wonder people get confused?

Those of us who take poppers know very well they are not a psychoactive substance but lo and behold whoever drew up the legislation didn't do thorough research and added poppers to the list.

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By *atexsub  (M)  over a year ago

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Just seen this on another site

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35826369

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By *oveolder2  (M)  over a year ago

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love to try them

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*nnettePansy By *nnettePansy  (M) 34 weeks ago

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I don't need drugs to make me feel sexy :-

I AM SEXY

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