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By *orum reader  (M) 9 weeks ago

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Before you all get excited

Should Jeremy Corbyn resign over misleading Parliament yesterday

He very clearly said " silly women" but has since said the words he used were "silly people" should resign for lying to Parliament

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By *ophiexd   premium paying member (TV/TS/CD) 9 weeks ago

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No he shouldn't. How pathetic is it that they are making a big issue out of this.I call it a smokescreen.

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By *aravaggio  (M) 9 weeks ago

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It appears that he said, "Silly woman", singular. Now, donning my legal cap twice in a week, I have to say that the weight of evidence would support the "Silly woman" utterance. As to who he was referring is impossible to say, or at least to prove.

His major problem, though, is that he's made himself look damn silly. He should admit his mistake in saying what he did, and also further admit he made a serious error of judgment in trying to deny it. Apologies to all concerned .. blah blah blah. Apart from the odd passing comment over the coming weeks, that would be an end to it. The more he continues to deny it, the more stupid he appears, and the whole thing will snowball to the point where his own female staff to start with, and then the males also, will HAVE to side with his detractors unless they too want to be tarnished by the "stupid brush" …. then, its bye bye Jeremy.

At the end of the day, we will probably all agree that its a stupid little thing, but its a stupid little thing that can blown up to be a massive problem if not nipped in the bud NOW.

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By *aravaggio  (M) 9 weeks ago

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addendum to above post ….sorry, sorry …. stupid woman, not silly woman.

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By *iman60  (M) 9 weeks ago

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"addendum to above post ….sorry, sorry …. stupid woman, not silly woman."

I blame Mrs May...

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*astkenter By *astkenter  (M) 9 weeks ago

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I've seen the clip many times and try as I might I can't lipread anything other than 'stupid people'. A storm in a teacup.

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By *heshire baldie  (M) 9 weeks ago

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"addendum to above post ….sorry, sorry …. stupid woman, not silly woman.

I blame Mrs May... "

you're probably not the only one

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M) 9 weeks ago

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I am hardly a fan of Corbyn but I am quite good at lip reading and it looked to me more like 'stupid people'. Basically Mrs May got him rattled with her festive mocking. He's an easy target as he has no sense of humour and loses his temper quite quickly.

Speaking of yesterday in parliament, did anyone see the Lovely Dianne Abbott's speech. She looked half sozzled and made no sense. Labour really could do with a new front bench.

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By  *ountain    profile verified by photo premium paying member (M) 9 weeks ago

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Is she a woman? Yes . Is she stupid? Yes

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By *annyboy87  (M) 9 weeks ago

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"addendum to above post ….sorry, sorry …. stupid woman, not silly woman.

I blame Mrs May...

you're probably not the only one "

why is it Mrs May's fault please explain?

As for as I know Mrs may doesn't have any control over Corbyn mouth

Why would anyone say it's Mrs may fault

By the way she is a stupid woman

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By *annyboy87  (M) 9 weeks ago

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"I am hardly a fan of Corbyn but I am quite good at lip reading and it looked to me more like 'stupid people'. Basically Mrs May got him rattled with her festive mocking. He's an easy target as he has no sense of humour and loses his temper quite quickly.

Speaking of yesterday in parliament, did anyone see the Lovely Dianne Abbott's speech. She looked half sozzled and made no sense. Labour really could do with a new front bench."

I agree with you Mr nk

He did say stupid people my theory is as people know Corbyn is easily wound up so all party set out to wind up with someone watching closely for if and when they can pounce

All this with motive to take heat of Mrs May's catalogue of disasters

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By *illanihole  (M) 9 weeks ago

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Having seen the clip of Mr Corbyn's apparrent utterance I can only conclude that is was indeed "stupid people" and not "stupid Woman" as his many tory accusers state. Have also to say that the general behaviour by MP's during PMQ's yesterday was akin to a kindergarten playground.

Too many times things such as this rear up as a smoke screen and a simple timewasting exercise, especially in the past months when real business of parliament needs to continue. All wee see is "grandstanding by the Conservative party with one simple aim that of demeaning the leader of the opposition. i watched a report on CNN and all the news commentators were shaking they're heads saying what on earth are these politicians doing acting this way?

It does make you wonder why we ever voted any of them in!

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M) 9 weeks ago

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I think the person who comes out the worse, in this rather pathetic storm in a very small teacup, is the apology of a Speaker: the pompous ineffectual John Bercow. He does not seem to have any control of the house at all. He is also a bit of a misogynist himself as Andrea Leadsom so rightly pointed yesterday. When you look back at the way some of his predecessors, e.g. Betty Boothroyd, George Thomas, Selwyn Lloyd; ran the Commons in an orderly, firm but good natured fashion, this silly little man is not fit for purpose.

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By *ikey1973   profile verified by photo (M) 9 weeks ago

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I have no doubt Corbyn said stupid woman and I would put it down to a generational thing. I bet he tuts when watching women drivers park!

I would say anyone who thinks May is stupid or thinks Corbyn is stupid are actually stupid themselves, or at least very naive.

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By *annyboy87  (M) 9 weeks ago

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"I have no doubt Corbyn said stupid woman and I would put it down to a generational thing. I bet he tuts when watching women drivers park!

I would say anyone who thinks May is stupid or thinks Corbyn is stupid are actually stupid themselves, or at least very naive. "

can you actually lip read because I believe you can't

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By *aravaggio  (M) 9 weeks ago

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Unless he said "Stupid pwompal", then there is no way any "p" was involved in his utterance. The lip and mouth shape for a "p" is nothing like it is for a "w". The word ending, "n" or "l" is up for debate as mouth and lip shapes are almost identical, but a "w" and a "p" ? ….. there is no debate to be had unless you form your words very strangely and think others do the same as you …

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By *annyboy87  (M) 9 weeks ago

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"Unless he said "Stupid pwompal", then there is no way any "p" was involved in his utterance. The lip and mouth shape for a "p" is nothing like it is for a "w". The word ending, "n" or "l" is up for debate as mouth and lip shapes are almost identical, but a "w" and a "p" ? ….. there is no debate to be had unless you form your words very strangely and think others do the same as you … "

exactly Mr C very well said

All this is conservative party trying to get heat of Mrs May's catalogue of disasters. What next

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"Unless he said "Stupid pwompal", then there is no way any "p" was involved in his utterance. The lip and mouth shape for a "p" is nothing like it is for a "w". The word ending, "n" or "l" is up for debate as mouth and lip shapes are almost identical, but a "w" and a "p" ? ….. there is no debate to be had unless you form your words very strangely and think others do the same as you … "

And we can only assume that you are a qualified lip-reader ... or just slightly pompous

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By *iman60  (M) 9 weeks ago

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"addendum to above post ….sorry, sorry …. stupid woman, not silly woman.

I blame Mrs May...

you're probably not the only one why is it Mrs May's fault please explain?

As for as I know Mrs may doesn't have any control over Corbyn mouth

Why would anyone say it's Mrs may fault

By the way she is a stupid woman "

And denys and then proves the point

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By *poty   profile verified by photo (M) 9 weeks ago

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Mrs May is as happy as she could be. The news are not going on about Brexit, or her greeting the elbow. It's a great xmas present to her.

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By *poty   profile verified by photo (M) 9 weeks ago

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Getting

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M) 9 weeks ago

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I don't think it really matters what Corbyn said. The fact remains he was rattled and incapable of giving back as good as what he got. He later, in a rather desperate attempt to defend himself, tried to make out that he would not say anything detrimental about a woman because it is sexist. No doubt under his politically correct regime all generic words to describe men and women will be banned and we will all become gender fluid

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By *annyboy87  (M) 9 weeks ago

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"addendum to above post ….sorry, sorry …. stupid woman, not silly woman.

I blame Mrs May...

you're probably not the only one why is it Mrs May's fault please explain?

As for as I know Mrs may doesn't have any control over Corbyn mouth

Why would anyone say it's Mrs may fault

By the way she is a stupid woman

And denys and then proves the point "

denys what exactly?

Prove what point?

As I haven't blamed Mr may at all, what exactly am I denying? Eh Mr biman please point out

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M) 9 weeks ago

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Surely Denys was Mrs Thatcher's husband. Mrs May's is called Philip

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By *annyboy87  (M) 9 weeks ago

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"Surely Denys was Mrs Thatcher's husband. Mrs May's is called Philip "

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*astkenter By *astkenter  (M) 9 weeks ago

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"Surely Denys was Mrs Thatcher's husband. Mrs May's is called Philip "

Spelling police strike again

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M) 9 weeks ago

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"Surely Denys was Mrs Thatcher's husband. Mrs May's is called Philip

Spelling police strike again "

No I am definitely not a member of the spelling police. But it was such a lovely typo I just couldn't let it go. Especially with so many getting so irate about the rather trivial subject of this thread

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By *atinesque  (M) 9 weeks ago

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Had he been referring to males, he would have rightfully said, "Silly men". He was referring to a woman, or to women, so he said, "Silly woman" or "Silly women". I find it hard to see the harm in the inclusion of the words "woman" or "women", in that uttering. He has NOT SAID that she was silly because she's a woman...only that she is/was a silly woman.

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By *annyboy87  (M) 9 weeks ago

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He clearly said people

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By *ikey1973   profile verified by photo (M) 9 weeks ago

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Do you think you know me dannyboy? Well enough to mock whether I can lip read or not? How arrogant.

Actually my ex girlfriend and now good friend has a child who has been deaf from birth and I have spent 15 years in her company so I have picked up a little lip reading and I sign quite well.

She is a superb lip reader as you might expect. She is 100% certain that Corbyn said stupid woman. She could tell the immediate difference when he mouthed the W and not a P but says the second syllable was even more obvious when he mouthed the M in woman.

I don’t think anyone is as bothered about what he said as the fact he lied to cover it up and not for the first time in his career. A duplicitous character is Mr Corbyn.

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By *annyboy87  (M) 9 weeks ago

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"Do you think you know me dannyboy? Well enough to mock whether I can lip read or not How arrogant.

Actually my ex girlfriend and now good friend has a child who has been deaf from birth and I have spent 15 years in her company so I have picked up a little lip reading and I sign quite well.

She is a superb lip reader as you might expect. She is 100% certain that Corbyn said stupid woman. She could tell the immediate difference when he mouthed the W and not a P but says the second syllable was even more obvious when he mouthed the M in woman.

I don’t think anyone is as bothered about what he said as the fact he lied to cover it up and not for the first time in his career. A duplicitous character is Mr Corbyn. "

I believe I asked if you could lip read no mocking involved

I too have friends experienced in lip reading through having too similar to your situation i can myself

And we say he said people

At end of day conservative party were looking for any excuse to take the heat of Mrs May's catalogue of disasters

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By *ikey1973   profile verified by photo (M) 9 weeks ago

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“can you actually lip read because I believe you can't”

That is what you said dannyboy. Do you have the slightest idea what you are saying? You’re not Corbyn in disguise are you?

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By *annyboy87  (M) 9 weeks ago

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"“can you actually lip read because I believe you can't”

That is what you said dannyboy. Do you have the slightest idea what you are saying? You’re not Corbyn in disguise are you? "

and where was that not a question I just forgot to put question mark that's all

Can you actually lip read? because I believe you can't

Is that better for you,

The reason why I asked that question then said I don't believe, is you come across as a conservative that jump on any bandwagon to have ago at Corbyn

And before you say anything yes I do it but with your beloved Mrs may

May and Corbyn came out of same pod

Both wrong person for they respective party's

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By *ichael Spriggs  (M) 9 weeks ago

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Theresa May is not a silly woman or even a stupid one. She is a lying, traitorous bitch.

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By *annyboy87  (M) 9 weeks ago

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"Theresa May is not a silly woman or even a stupid one. She is a lying, traitorous bitch. "

200% correct there

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By *iscovery602   premium paying member (M) 9 weeks ago

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God help us if comrade Corbyn gets in. Another Putin goal.

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M) 9 weeks ago

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"God help us if comrade Corbyn gets in. Another Putin goal."

True. Mr Putin would love that.

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By *ikey1973   profile verified by photo (M) 9 weeks ago

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"“can you actually lip read because I believe you can't”

That is what you said dannyboy. Do you have the slightest idea what you are saying? You’re not Corbyn in disguise are you? and where was that not a question I just forgot to put question mark that's all

Can you actually lip read? because I believe you can't

Is that better for you,

The reason why I asked that question then said I don't believe, is you come across as a conservative that jump on any bandwagon to have ago at Corbyn

And before you say anything yes I do it but with your beloved Mrs may

May and Corbyn came out of same pod

Both wrong person for they respective party's "

I haven’t been on this site long dannyboy but you really are a strange character. First you say “can you actually lipread because I believe you can’t” which even with several question marks would not be a question. It is a statement.

Then you accuse me, quite wrongly of being a Conservative which is completely false and if you have read my previous posts you would see that I stated on several occasions that I have always been a Labour voter and have never been a Conservative voter. I am a socialist.

However I did say that I had an admiration for the way Mrs May has handled things since taking the leadership. That does not make her my beloved as you put it. I admire lots of people who’s ideas and policies ido not necessarily agree with.

I voted for Brexit and still want Brexit but I am not so stupid that I want to walk away with not a plan in sight and I appreciate that May seems to be the only one of any party who is fighting for as good a deal with Brexit as we could hope for.

May and Corbin from the same pod? Have you been drinking?

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By *attthew2  (M) 9 weeks ago

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"It appears that he said, "Silly woman", singular. Now, donning my legal cap twice in a week, I have to say that the weight of evidence would support the "Silly woman" utterance. As to who he was referring is impossible to say, or at least to prove.

His major problem, though, is that he's made himself look damn silly. He should admit his mistake in saying what he did, and also further admit he made a serious error of judgment in trying to deny it. Apologies to all concerned .. blah blah blah. Apart from the odd passing comment over the coming weeks, that would be an end to it. The more he continues to deny it, the more stupid he appears, and the whole thing will snowball to the point where his own female staff to start with, and then the males also, will HAVE to side with his detractors unless they too want to be tarnished by the "stupid brush" …. then, its bye bye Jeremy.

At the end of the day, we will probably all agree that its a stupid little thing, but its a stupid little thing that can blown up to be a massive problem if not nipped in the bud NOW."

He OST good at ‘nipping I’m the bud’ sadly, anti semarism etc. I’m disappoint with his lack of political acumen- lovely bloke though.

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By *annyboy87  (M) 9 weeks ago

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"“can you actually lip read because I believe you can't”

That is what you said dannyboy. Do you have the slightest idea what you are saying? You’re not Corbyn in disguise are you? and where was that not a question I just forgot to put question mark that's all

Can you actually lip read? because I believe you can't

Is that better for you,

The reason why I asked that question then said I don't believe, is you come across as a conservative that jump on any bandwagon to have ago at Corbyn

And before you say anything yes I do it but with your beloved Mrs may

May and Corbyn came out of same pod

Both wrong person for they respective party's

I haven’t been on this site long dannyboy but you really are a strange character. First you say “can you actually lipread because I believe you can’t” which even with several question marks would not be a question. It is a statement.

Then you accuse me, quite wrongly of being a Conservative which is completely false and if you have read my previous posts you would see that I stated on several occasions that I have always been a Labour voter and have never been a Conservative voter. I am a socialist.

However I did say that I had an admiration for the way Mrs May has handled things since taking the leadership. That does not make her my beloved as you put it. I admire lots of people who’s ideas and policies ido not necessarily agree with.

I voted for Brexit and still want Brexit but I am not so stupid that I want to walk away with not a plan in sight and I appreciate that May seems to be the only one of any party who is fighting for as good a deal with Brexit as we could hope for.

May and Corbin from the same pod? Have you been drinking?

"

1, I knew you was labour, not conservative not very nice being called a conservative is it when labour.

So when you are a conservative and being called Corbyn same thing, you ask if I was Corbyn in disguise

Corbyn is a no good for nothing, just like may is for conservatives, I've always voted conservative but will not next time if may is still in charge. Especially after her catalogue of disasters she is not a good leader

She is in power only because Labour have Corbyn.

You are right regarding brexit though we do need to leave with a deal a good one but not a bad one

Alot are saying maY's is not a very good one some saying completely wrong.

Why is it such an unholy mess if Mrs May's deal is so damn good, some are saying Mrs May's deal us we leave but EU still as some pull especially customs

That's not leaving

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I,love the fact that everyone seems concerned about whether it was 'woman', 'people' or 'person' but no-one seems concerned about the word 'stupid'. We just accept that the someone or some people on the government benches are stupid. That seems to be a given. The debate is on whether it is the Prime Minister, someone else or the whole damn lot. Classic.

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"I,love the fact that everyone seems concerned about whether it was 'woman', 'people' or 'person' but no-one seems concerned about the word 'stupid'. We just accept that the someone or some people on the government benches are stupid. That seems to be a given. The debate is on whether it is the Prime Minister, someone else or the whole damn lot. Classic."

Well said. I agree. All the attention focused on this, much of it from people who were quick to excuse BJ for his 'pillarbox' and other remarks. I guess I was mistaken to think we are faced with other more serious problems such as the Brexit debacle and the shame of child poverty and deaths of homeless people, etc.

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By *ljcleeve   profile verified by photo (M) 9 weeks ago

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For this matter alone he should be hauled over the coals as it is most inappropriate behaviour in the House of Commons these days.

I realise that he was not actually speaking to anyone, more likely just thinking out loud to himself, but how dare a member of parliament dare to speak the truth while sat in the House.

Most unthinkable and disgraceful (his main defence can only be that we aren't really sure as to the sex, or even humanity, of the object of the comment).

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By *ollydee   premium paying member (M) 9 weeks ago

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Desperate tory party tactics, Should Amber Rudd have been re-instated, should two suspended party members been allowed to vote in the no confidence vote, or what about buffoon Boris and his forgetfulness to declare thousands of pounds in earnings, never mind the u-turns bendy bus May has done, oh and the Brexit debacle, the tory party are really in control aren't they.

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M) 9 weeks ago

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This is all been blown out of proportion. We all call other people stupid, and worse, from time to time, and they, no doubt, return the 'complement'. Also we all have unguarded moments whether we are in the public eye or not. No one comes out of this very well, neither those baying for blood or Corbyn trying to wriggle out of it with some lame pc claptrap of and excuse. He should man-up, apologise and then everyone should draw a line under it.

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By *ikkey69  (M) 9 weeks ago

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I think you should have gone to specsavers !! Even a blind man could read his lips clearly !!

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"I think you should have gone to specsavers !! Even a blind man could read his lips clearly !!"

As clear as the fact that Father Christmas really exists and comes down the chimney.

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By *aravaggio  (M) 9 weeks ago

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"Unless he said "Stupid pwompal", then there is no way any "p" was involved in his utterance. The lip and mouth shape for a "p" is nothing like it is for a "w". The word ending, "n" or "l" is up for debate as mouth and lip shapes are almost identical, but a "w" and a "p" ? ….. there is no debate to be had unless you form your words very strangely and think others do the same as you …

And we can only assume that you are a qualified lip-reader ... or just slightly pompous "

Affectedly grand or self important??? … Let me tell you, there is no affectation whatsoever ….

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By *aravaggio  (M) 9 weeks ago

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"I,love the fact that everyone seems concerned about whether it was 'woman', 'people' or 'person' but no-one seems concerned about the word 'stupid'. We just accept that the someone or some people on the government benches are stupid. That seems to be a given. The debate is on whether it is the Prime Minister, someone else or the whole damn lot. Classic.

Well said. I agree. All the attention focused on this, much of it from people who were quick to excuse BJ for his 'pillarbox' and other remarks. I guess I was mistaken to think we are faced with other more serious problems such as the Brexit debacle and the shame of child poverty and deaths of homeless people, etc."

I note that the Tory party have excused Boris as well, regarding the "pillar box/bankrobber", so maybe some people weren't quick off the mark in excusing him ….. maybe they were just right all along ..

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Maybe and maybe not.

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"I think you should have gone to specsavers !! Even a blind man could read his lips clearly !!

As clear as the fact that Father Christmas really exists and comes down the chimney."

very well said

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"Desperate tory party tactics, Should Amber Rudd have been re-instated, should two suspended party members been allowed to vote in the no confidence vote, or what about buffoon Boris and his forgetfulness to declare thousands of pounds in earnings, never mind the u-turns bendy bus May has done, oh and the Brexit debacle, the tory party are really in control aren't they."

209%correct there

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"Desperate tory party tactics, Should Amber Rudd have been re-instated, should two suspended party members been allowed to vote in the no confidence vote, or what about buffoon Boris and his forgetfulness to declare thousands of pounds in earnings, never mind the u-turns bendy bus May has done, oh and the Brexit debacle, the tory party are really in control aren't they.209%correct there

"

You cannot have 209% It is mathematically impossible. Plus it's only an opinion. Amber Rudd made a mistake and had the decency to resign. She is now back making a good job of sorting out a ministry that was in shambles with her predecessor. She is far too good a talent to waste. The two MPs have only been suspended not expelled. What happened to guilty until proved innocent. As for bumbling Boris well what do you expect.

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By *cottie18  (M) 9 weeks ago

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and you can dream on mate you must be a lobour. suporter

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By *cousedpw   profile verified by photo (M) 9 weeks ago

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"Desperate tory party tactics, Should Amber Rudd have been re-instated, should two suspended party members been allowed to vote in the no confidence vote, or what about buffoon Boris and his forgetfulness to declare thousands of pounds in earnings, never mind the u-turns bendy bus May has done, oh and the Brexit debacle, the tory party are really in control aren't they.209%correct there

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209%?

Sounds like the interest rate on a Wonga loan!

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M) 9 weeks ago

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"and you can dream on mate you must be a labour. supporter"

Wonder who that was aimed at?

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"and you can dream on mate you must be a labour. supporter

Wonder who that was aimed at?"

Doesn't really matter. It's only on here that it is a crime to be a Labour supporter.

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By *annyboy87  (M) 9 weeks ago

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"Desperate tory party tactics, Should Amber Rudd have been re-instated, should two suspended party members been allowed to vote in the no confidence vote, or what about buffoon Boris and his forgetfulness to declare thousands of pounds in earnings, never mind the u-turns bendy bus May has done, oh and the Brexit debacle, the tory party are really in control aren't they.209%correct there

You cannot have 209% It is mathematically impossible. Plus it's only an opinion. Amber Rudd made a mistake and had the decency to resign. She is now back making a good job of sorting out a ministry that was in shambles with her predecessor. She is far too good a talent to waste. The two MPs have only been suspended not expelled. What happened to guilty until proved innocent. As for bumbling Boris well what do you expect. "

Mr nk

I know there's no thing as 209%

It's just obvious that I totally agree that's all

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By *cottie18  (M) 9 weeks ago

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god help us if that idiot corbyn. ever gets in there will be gulags everywhere. back to the old days of lenin

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By *annyboy87  (M) 9 weeks ago

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"and you can dream on mate you must be a labour. supporter

Wonder who that was aimed at?"

Mr nk it's most probably aimed at myself

He's wrong again in his assessment as I'm no labour supporter I'm a disgruntled conservative follower

He's always doing it

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By *annyboy87  (M) 9 weeks ago

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"god help us if that idiot corbyn. ever gets in there will be gulags everywhere. back to the old days of lenin "

and you are saying this after conservative catalogue of disasters

I don't like Corbyn same way as I dislike Mrs may but we all stuck with her for another year

One last thing you ought to be thankful to Mr Corbyn because if labour had a properleader we wwouldn't have this propped up government

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By *cottie18  (M) 9 weeks ago

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this goverment is doing ok just idiots like yoursekf that is destroying this party just because you cant get your own way its a catch 22. better what we have. than orople like subury that will destroy this party may cant do rught fir doing wring. get over your selfes its not abiut you.

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M) 9 weeks ago

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"god help us if that idiot corbyn. ever gets in there will be gulags everywhere. back to the old days of lenin and you are saying this after conservative catalogue of disasters

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I do wonder about this 'catalogue of disasters' you keep on about. This government has made mistakes as have just about every government in the world since goodness knows when. But the successes of this government far outweigh anything they have got wrong and the country is in pretty good shape at the moment whether you like it or not.

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By *heshire baldie  (M) 9 weeks ago

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I haven't got a clue what you just said, but it sounded great!

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By *udekeith  (M) 9 weeks ago

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And in English that says .....?

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By *heshire baldie  (M) 9 weeks ago

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not you Mr NK, the one before you

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By *annyboy87  (M) 9 weeks ago

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"this goverment is doing ok just idiots like yoursekf that is destroying this party just because you cant get your own way its a catch 22. better what we have. than orople like subury that will destroy this party may cant do rught fir doing wring. get over your selfes its not abiut you. "

name calling doesn't hurt me pal

Can't understand what came after so please repeat in English

And please call me some more rude names as all it does is makes me laugh

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"god help us if that idiot corbyn. ever gets in there will be gulags everywhere. back to the old days of lenin and you are saying this after conservative catalogue of disasters

I do wonder about this 'catalogue of disasters' you keep on about. This government has made mistakes as have just about every government in the world since goodness knows when. But the successes of this government far outweigh anything they have got wrong and the country is in pretty good shape at the moment whether you like it or not."

Would love to hear the successes of this government - Brexit off the rails, more homeless people dying and child poverty increasing due to austerity, more zero-hour minimum wage jobs to massage unemployment figures, etc. Where's the good in that?

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By *annyboy87  (M) 9 weeks ago

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"god help us if that idiot corbyn. ever gets in there will be gulags everywhere. back to the old days of lenin and you are saying this after conservative catalogue of disasters

I do wonder about this 'catalogue of disasters' you keep on about. This government has made mistakes as have just about every government in the world since goodness knows when. But the successes of this government far outweigh anything they have got wrong and the country is in pretty good shape at the moment whether you like it or not.

Would love to hear the successes of this government - Brexit off the rails, more homeless people dying and child poverty increasing due to austerity, more zero-hour minimum wage jobs to massage unemployment figures, etc. Where's the good in that?"

that's success to conservative party obviously

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M) 9 weeks ago

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And you still maintain you are basically a Conservative Danny yet you keep rubbishing them.

As for the other things Brexit appears to be off the rails because of the Bone-headed attitude by staunch Brexiteers within the government's own party and the opposition parties wanting it to fail. A very high percentage of business leaders---the people who really matter---are quite happy with the deal. A lot of homelessness is the fault of councils and devolved governments This government is putting money into rectifying the problem but it cannot be cured by waving a magic wand as some would have us believe. We are gradually coming out of austerity by the government's prudent control of finance. It's been a bitter pill but you cannot spend what you haven't got and we already borrow too much. Zero hours are not the invention of this government. They were around big time in the Blair/Brown years plus they suit a lot of people. New legislation is being introduced to give workers on zero hours much better rights. Also minimum wages have risen faster under this government than they did under the previous one and tax thresholds have increased.

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By *utitinmybum   profile verified by photo (M) 9 weeks ago

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I think they should all resign and stop acting like foolish children.If I had run my business like parliament is run I would have been bankrupt within days.

Seems to be run like a childrens playground Total lot of incompetent idiots.What's worse is we elected them.

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"And you still maintain you are basically a Conservative Danny yet you keep rubbishing them.

As for the other things Brexit appears to be off the rails because of the Bone-headed attitude by staunch Brexiteers within the government's own party and the opposition parties wanting it to fail. A very high percentage of business leaders---the people who really matter---are quite happy with the deal. A lot of homelessness is the fault of councils and devolved governments This government is putting money into rectifying the problem but it cannot be cured by waving a magic wand as some would have us believe. We are gradually coming out of austerity by the government's prudent control of finance. It's been a bitter pill but you cannot spend what you haven't got and we already borrow too much. Zero hours are not the invention of this government. They were around big time in the Blair/Brown years plus they suit a lot of people. New legislation is being introduced to give workers on zero hours much better rights. Also minimum wages have risen faster under this government than they did under the previous one and tax thresholds have increased."

You should go on Question Time - that's exactly the kind of rehearsed sound bite the Tories use on there

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"And you still maintain you are basically a Conservative Danny yet you keep rubbishing them.

As for the other things Brexit appears to be off the rails because of the Bone-headed attitude by staunch Brexiteers within the government's own party and the opposition parties wanting it to fail. A very high percentage of business leaders---the people who really matter---are quite. happy with the deal. A lot of homelessness is the fault of councils and devolved governments This government is putting money into rectifying the problem but it cannot be cured by waving a magic wand as some would have us believe. We are gradually coming out of austerity by the government's prudent control of finance. It's been a bitter pill but you cannot spend what you haven't got and we already borrow too much. Zero hours are not the invention of this government. They were around big time in the Blair/Brown years plus they suit a lot of people. New legislation is being introduced to give workers on zero hours much better rights. Also minimum wages have risen faster under this government than they did under the previous one and tax thresholds have increased.

You should go on Question Time - that's exactly the kind of rehearsed sound bite the Tories use on there "

that's what I was thinking

I suppose there's a website full of excuses for mp's

And if the conservatives are not going to run things like I would imagine I'm entitled to

1, change my mind on them

2, as long as I've voted which I have can have an opinion like everyone else

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"I think they should all resign and stop acting like foolish children.If I had run my business like parliament is run I would have been bankrupt within days.

Seems to be run like a childrens playground Total lot of incompetent idiots.What's worse is we elected them."

I’ve never understood why any country would want to humiliate themselves in front of the world. If you didn’t know better you would think PMQs was a spoof show. Corbyn saying stupid woman did liven it up a bit.

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By *annyboy87  (M) 9 weeks ago

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He said stupid people

I hate the bloke so would not stick up for the man

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"I think they should all resign and stop acting like foolish children.If I had run my business like parliament is run I would have been bankrupt within days.

Seems to be run like a childrens playground Total lot of incompetent idiots.What's worse is we elected them.

I’ve never understood why any country would want to humiliate themselves in front of the world. If you didn’t know better you would think PMQs was a spoof show. Corbyn saying stupid woman did liven it up a bit. "

Incidentally I have no problem with Corbyn saying stupid woman. Most of us make derogatory remarks about people from time to time but he should have come clean.

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Incidentally I have no problem with Corbyn saying stupid woman. Most of us make derogatory remarks about people from time to time but he should have come clean. "

So true. We are all entitled to call someone stupid if that is our personal opinion of them. Daresay most of us have been called stupid by others at sometime in our lives. Doing it in the HOC at an unguarded moment was not wise but its done and he should at least admit it, and get it over and done with, rather than try and wriggle out of it with some pc claptrap.

However it has been a useful diversion in covering up some bad news for his party:

Fiona Onasanya being convicted of lying over a motoring offence which could lead to her being imprisoned and a by-election in her very marginal constituency.

Kate Osamor resigning from the shadow cabinet over the ongoing investigation regarding her son who works for her and who she refused to sack despite his drugs conviction. She's also waving the 'race card' trying to claim prejudice which is unfounded.

Ivan Lewis, a former minister in the Blair/Brown governments, resigning from the Labour party with a scathing attack on Mr Corbyn's failure to deal with anti-Semitism in the Labour Party. He had been suspended only grounds of sexual abuse but so far nothing had been proved

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By *onjj  (M) 8 weeks ago

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he did say it.I have a deaf friend and he spotted it , its time Corbin and his ugly friend Abbot, cleared off ,neither is a vote winner

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"he did say it.I have a deaf friend and he spotted it , its time Corbin and his ugly friend Abbot, cleared off ,neither is a vote winner "

I too know someone that is deaf but he says he said stupid people and he hates Corbyn.

Funny the camera was on Corbyn constantly.

I bet Mrs may and her cronies was just waiting for first opportunity to start claiming he said this and said that

So to heat of her back how convenient was that,

Now she can carryon with her sabotage of Brexit

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I don’t think anyone truly believes he didnt say stupid woman and I doubt anyone really cares so he was a fool to deny it.

I would imagine that several cameras record simultaneously so all major players are recorded.

I don’t think we have ever seen an incident where one party cocked up and the other party didn’t make a meal of it - it’s called politics!

I don’t think it made much difference with so many other topics being discussed and I don’t think it will deter Mrs May from pushing forward with a deal for Brexit.

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By *annyboy87  (M) 7 weeks ago

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In answer to thread question

Yes he should for one he's too old at 70 should putting his feet up.

The younger generation should take over around 40s should have enough life experiences by then

Not that when these old ones make a decision take years to come to fruition they maynot be around

Its the young ones that have to suffer with any mistakes they make

Not that the world is forever changing and old ones are stuck in they ways and won'tcchange

We need people more in touch with modern society it's 2019 in 47 hrs not 1970s

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By *ikey1973   profile verified by photo (M) 7 weeks ago

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Corbyn should go because he is dangerous for the country and the Labour Party. He has already done too much harm.

Actually we need the knowledge and wisdom of older heads and the new ideas and modern thinking of the young. Both would be useless without the other.

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"Corbyn should go because he is dangerous for the country and the Labour Party. He has already done too much harm.

Actually we need the knowledge and wisdom of older heads and the new ideas and modern thinking of the young. Both would be useless without the other. "

you are right but there is an age where it's not an good idea to in a place bad for high blood pressure

So people between 40 and 59 probably best age to be running country with alot of young ones working under them

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I don't normally buy a Sunday paper or pay much heed to what they say. However today I could not resist buying the Mail on Sunday. There are exacts from a book someone has written about Corbyn and it shows him in a far worse light than I imagined possible. Always thought he was unsuited to high office and this just confirms it. The sooner Labour ditches him and gets a sensible leader the better for all around.

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"I don't normally buy a Sunday paper or pay much heed to what they say. However today I could not resist buying the Mail on Sunday. There are exacts from a book someone has written about Corbyn and it shows him in a far worse light than I imagined possible. Always thought he was unsuited to high office and this just confirms it. The sooner Labour ditches him and gets a sensible leader the better for all around."

Unfortunately it's not at all likely

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The anti railwayana part upset me. The rest was no shock at all. Yet another effete socialist with zero experience of the life of the working class. No experience of life, a shoddy professional politician not fit to run an errand let alone the country

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Corbyn is a mere puppet. He doesn't have an original thought in his head. He's nothing more than a serial protester. The two guys to worry about are John McDonnell, and an unelected svengali-type character, who appears to pull the strings of everyone, Seumas Milne. By all accounts, no-one in Corbyn's office, including Corbyn, even farts without his say so.

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Beware of Reds under the bed and Blues in government.

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"Beware of Reds under the bed and Blues in government."

That's the way it should be

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What ever happened to the Greens. .??. To much weed killer !!

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aren't we supposed to be eating five of them a day?

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"What ever happened to the Greens. .??. To much weed killer !!"

Obviously not enough weedkiller as they are like weeds.not wanted and hard to get rid of.

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"What ever happened to the Greens. .??. To much weed killer !!Obviously not enough weedkiller as they are like weeds.not wanted and hard to get rid of."

I thought that was farage

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Farage won't be going anywhere until he retires to his mansion abroad after Brexshit.

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