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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M) 22 weeks ago

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Is this the way the USA is heading under Trump. Not only does he want to build a Hadrian-esk type wall along the Mexican border but he is pulling US troops from the world trouble spots. Government is virtually in meltdown as he is gridlocked with Congress over his precious wall. He is pulling out of Syria which could either lead to the resurgence of ISIS or a total take-over by Russia. Also pulling out of Afghanistan which could serious undermine the fragile democratic government there. He's a very erratic president to say the least.

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By *annyboy87  (M) 22 weeks ago

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Russia will probaly take syria

Trump could be losing his marbles

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By *ikey1973   profile verified by photo (M) 22 weeks ago

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"Is this the way the USA is heading under Trump. Not only does he want to build a Hadrian-esk type wall along the Mexican border but he is pulling US troops from the world trouble spots. Government is virtually in meltdown as he is gridlocked with Congress over his precious wall. He is pulling out of Syria which could either lead to the resurgence of ISIS or a total take-over by Russia. Also pulling out of Afghanistan which could serious undermine the fragile democratic government there. He's a very erratic president to say the least."

China needs watching too while Trump focuses the world on his plans.

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*9al By *9al  (M) 22 weeks ago

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I seem to remember during the election campaign the Mexicans were going to pay for the wall? but as usual the hard working tax payer is paying for politicians ego trips

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M) 22 weeks ago

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The idea that the Mexicans would pay for the wall was pure fantasy. Now he's acting like a spoilt child who can't get his own way with Congress not agreeing to fund this wall.

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*9al By *9al  (M) 22 weeks ago

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perhaps we should ask the Mexicans to pay for rebuilding Hadrian's wall?

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*s55 By *s55  (M) 22 weeks ago

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Trump pulling US troops out of Syria how surprising is he just Putin's Puppet they have now sold enough arms to now own all the oil rights who put trump into the presidency

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By *tr8horn  (M) 21 weeks ago

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Is this a UK site? Y r we worrying about trump?

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*ikrob By *ikrob  (M) 21 weeks ago

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The man is a meglomaniac and should be taken out.by his own people

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M) 21 weeks ago

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"Is this a UK site? Y r we worrying about trump? "

Sounds like you are a 'Splendid UK Isolationist'

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*9al By *9al  (M) 21 weeks ago

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we are right to worry about Trump ,Putin , Chi ,because these idiots could have a worse effect on our lives than our own stupid woman (stupid person) May

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By *ikey1973   profile verified by photo (M) 21 weeks ago

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Actually we are very fortunate in the U.K. For all it’s faults our parliamentary system works very well and we have never had a warmongering leader and it’s unlikely this would ever be the case. Blair was led astray for a while by the US but that’s not quite the same thing.

Many world leaders want more control and expansion of their lands.

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By *ikkey69  (M) 21 weeks ago

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Im joining the drone party !! In 24 hoursthey stopped immigration !! Thats something all politicians have failed to do on over 100 years !!

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By *awtyCawty  (M) 21 weeks ago

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"we are right to worry about Trump ,Putin , Chi ,because these idiots could have a worse effect on our lives than our own stupid woman (stupid person) May "

Quite right, and especially if that yellow bellied coward Corbyn was our leader at the same time. He and his fellow labour scum would destroy our armed forces and surrender before you could say ‘fuckwit’.

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M) 21 weeks ago

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"Im joining the drone party !! In 24 hoursthey stopped immigration !! Thats something all politicians have failed to do on over 100 years !!"

Yes but on the negative side it stopped any immigrant leaving the country. However another bright side was less damage to the ozone layer although Trump doesn't believe in such things.

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"we are right to worry about Trump ,Putin , Chi ,because these idiots could have a worse effect on our lives than our own stupid woman (stupid person) May

Quite right, and especially if that yellow bellied coward Corbyn was our leader at the same time. He and his fellow labour scum would destroy our armed forces and surrender before you could say ‘fuckwit’."

How could Corbyn destroy our armed forces, we haven't got enough left now to cause a serious threat to anyone and the immigrants constantly flooding into the country make an out and out attack impossible for most countries as they already have huge numbers of their people infiltrating our society.

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By *ljcleeve   profile verified by photo (M) 21 weeks ago

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"Actually we are very fortunate in the U.K. For all it’s faults our parliamentary system works very well and we have never had a warmongering leader and it’s unlikely this would ever be the case. Blair was led astray for a while by the US but that’s not quite the same thing.

Many world leaders want more control and expansion of their lands. "

This depends upon your party politics and how true you view the rumours/allegations of Thatcher organising the Falklands conflict to aid her continued domination of the UK and her son's arms deals.

All of our leaders tend to bow down to the needs of the US and will happily follow them into most conflicts and May seems quite happy giving up large parts of the UK to appease the EU.

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By *ikey1973   profile verified by photo (M) 21 weeks ago

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"we are right to worry about Trump ,Putin , Chi ,because these idiots could have a worse effect on our lives than our own stupid woman (stupid person) May

Quite right, and especially if that yellow bellied coward Corbyn was our leader at the same time. He and his fellow labour scum would destroy our armed forces and surrender before you could say ‘fuckwit’."

Destroying our armed forces would take more than Corbyn and his terrorist friends but they would undermine our strengths and certainly put the country in danger of more terrorist actions.

You are wrong to call Labour scum. For the most part Labour and those with socialist beliefs have the good of the population at heart. Even those of us who support Labour can still detest Corbyn for bringing the party into disrepute.

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M) 21 weeks ago

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You are wrong to call Labour scum. For the most part Labour and those with socialist beliefs have the good of the population at heart. Even those of us who support Labour can still detest Corbyn for bringing the party into disrepute. "

Thoroughly agree. I have never voted Labour in a major election [twice in council elections based on the personality and ability of the candidate] and cannot imagine ever doing so. However I would not stoop to name calling like 'scum'. It's totally uncalled for. I have no time for Corbyn and an intense dislike for McDonnell but, whilst I might do a bit of mickey taking about them, I will not insult them with derogatory terms. I respect and admire some Labour politicians but sadly they have been designated to the back benches these days.

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By *annyboy87  (M) 21 weeks ago

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And the back benches is where they deserve

Conservative party may have wrongly appointed the wrong leader but stand above labour

Labour just give and give but don't think what is going to pay for it. So we all pay later labour just don't have an idea what they doing.

Yes conservatives have made alot of mistakes but that's down to leadership but still better than labour.

Even though it's a shame our current leader has lead them into a propped government

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By *ikey1973   profile verified by photo (M) 21 weeks ago

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You are wrong to call Labour scum. For the most part Labour and those with socialist beliefs have the good of the population at heart. Even those of us who support Labour can still detest Corbyn for bringing the party into disrepute.

Thoroughly agree. I have never voted Labour in a major election [twice in council elections based on the personality and ability of the candidate] and cannot imagine ever doing so. However I would not stoop to name calling like 'scum'. It's totally uncalled for. I have no time for Corbyn and an intense dislike for McDonnell but, whilst I might do a bit of mickey taking about them, I will not insult them with derogatory terms. I respect and admire some Labour politicians but sadly they have been designated to the back benches these days."

I’m sure that’s the way most people feel Nordic Knight. Most politicians and parties try to do the right thing but 8n different ways.

I’m a bit jealous of the Tories having a leader who can actually lead but our time will come.

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By *ikey1973   profile verified by photo (M) 21 weeks ago

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"

You are wrong to call Labour scum. For the most part Labour and those with socialist beliefs have the good of the population at heart. Even those of us who support Labour can still detest Corbyn for bringing the party into disrepute.

Thoroughly agree. I have never voted Labour in a major election [twice in council elections based on the personality and ability of the candidate] and cannot imagine ever doing so. However I would not stoop to name calling like 'scum'. It's totally uncalled for. I have no time for Corbyn and an intense dislike for McDonnell but, whilst I might do a bit of mickey taking about them, I will not insult them with derogatory terms. I respect and admire some Labour politicians but sadly they have been designated to the back benches these days."

I’m sure that’s the way most people feel Nordic Knight. Most politicians and parties try to do the right thing but 8n different ways.

I’m a bit jealous of the Tories having a leader who can actually lead but our time will come.

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*kws By *kws  (M) 21 weeks ago

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Over the years I have noticed thst it is labour who leave this country in a mess financially and it is left to the conservatives to try and sort out the debts left.

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By *annyboy87  (M) 21 weeks ago

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I've worked it out Mrs may is an labour mp's sent in to bring tories down so labour can get in.

Would explain alot

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By *ikey1973   profile verified by photo (M) 21 weeks ago

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I think you’re a bit confused Danny. It’s Mrs May keeping Corbyn at bay.

Seriously I wish she was Labour leader because I think that if we put the Brexit split to one side she would be striding very quickly ahead and would possibly be the best leader Labour have had for many years.

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M) 21 weeks ago

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"I've worked it out Mrs May is a labour MP sent in to bring Tories down so labour can get in.

Would explain a lot"

That sherry was supposed to be for Santa. There's none left as you've obviously drunk it all

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By *annyboy87  (M) 21 weeks ago

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"I've worked it out Mrs May is a labour MP sent in to bring Tories down so labour can get in.

Would explain a lot

That sherry was supposed to be for Santa. There's none left as you've obviously drunk it all "

lol I wish you had told me that before Mr nk.

Santa won't leave me anything now

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By *annyboy87  (M) 21 weeks ago

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"I think you’re a bit confused Danny. It’s Mrs May keeping Corbyn at bay.

Seriously I wish she was Labour leader because I think that if we put the Brexit split to one side she would be striding very quickly ahead and would possibly be the best leader Labour have had for many years. "

Mr Corbyn doesn't need may for that.

Labour really need a change of leadership so they can offer some competition to slacking tories as some of labour's policy is better than tory ones

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*s55 By *s55  (M) 21 weeks ago

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Trump is the leader of one of the biggest economy's in the world and wether we like it or not he impacts world politics. The guy is seriously dangerous along with others in other important countries it doesn't take much to start a massive arms race with military economy's ( Germany 1930s ) once you have a frightened world and big armies what's left to do yep invade a neighbour who threatens you

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M) 21 weeks ago

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Speaking of Trump and the economy he could yet be presiding over the biggest financial crisis since the historic Wall Street Crash if he does not stop interfering with US federal finances and sending out ridiculous tweets that are undermining confidence. The man is fast becoming a menace.

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By *ikey1973   profile verified by photo (M) 21 weeks ago

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To be fair to Trump the US has a catastrophic problem with the Mexico border which has plagued them for years.

He also inherited the military problems around the world .

When elected he made in clear he wanted to solve these crisis and concentrate on the welfare of the American people first.

In fact his desires echo many of those in the U.K. crying out for string borders and preventing immigration and looking after the British people first..

Then it went pear shaped. Firstly he was a business leader not used to taking advice and having little knowledge of politics. Secondly he Twitter which makes even clever people look stupid.

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By *ikey1973   profile verified by photo (M) 21 weeks ago

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"To be fair to Trump the US has a catastrophic problem with the Mexico border which has plagued them for years.

He also inherited the military problems around the world .

When elected he made it clear he wanted to solve these crisis and concentrate on the welfare of the American people first.

In fact his desires echo many of those in the U.K. crying out for strong borders and preventing immigration and looking after the British people first.

Then it went pear shaped. Firstly he was a business leader not used to taking advice and having little knowledge of politics. Secondly he discovered Twitter which makes even clever people look stupid. "

Not used to this so corrected my post.

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"To be fair to Trump the US has a catastrophic problem with the Mexico border which has plagued them for years.

He also inherited the military problems around the world .

When elected he made it clear he wanted to solve these crisis and concentrate on the welfare of the American people first.

In fact his desires echo many of those in the U.K. crying out for strong borders and preventing immigration and looking after the British people first.

Then it went pear shaped. Firstly he was a business leader not used to taking advice and having little knowledge of politics. Secondly he discovered Twitter which makes even clever people look stupid.

"

The fact that he is not a politician is what makes him different, he is showing politics up for the joke it is. Yes he is making himself look stupid but who cares who thinks your are stupid when your are President of the USA and a multi millionaire. As they say there is no such thing as bad publicity.

We had Farage who appealed to our basest desires , they had Trump and both countries are now Donald Ducked....

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By (user no longer on site) 20 weeks ago

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As much as people may dislike Trump, I do not!

Yeah, ok, he looks a bit weird. But that's not why he was elected President.

He was elected for his promises ! And thus far, he has delivered !

I don't remember one politician, home or abroad, that can boast his success rate. And I believe this is why politicians like to ridicule him!

The people elected a business man to run their country, because that's what the country needed. And from what we see, he's doing a bloody good job !!

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"As much as people may dislike Trump, I do not!

Yeah, ok, he looks a bit weird. But that's not why he was elected President.

He was elected for his promises ! And thus far, he has delivered !

I don't remember one politician, home or abroad, that can boast his success rate. And I believe this is why politicians like to ridicule him!

The people elected a business man to run their country, because that's what the country needed. And from what we see, he's doing a bloody good job !!"

there's one word for it

Envy

Trump delivers our mp's don't

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M) 20 weeks ago

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Trump delivers our mp's don't "

He's doing a splendid job of delivering at the moment. Government partially shut down so several hundred civil servants had to face Christmas without pay. Now in total gridlock with the newly sworn-in House of Representatives over his famous wall.

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"As much as people may dislike Trump, I do not!

Yeah, ok, he looks a bit weird. But that's not why he was elected President.

He was elected for his promises ! And thus far, he has delivered !

I don't remember one politician, home or abroad, that can boast his success rate. And I believe this is why politicians like to ridicule him!

The people elected a business man to run their country, because that's what the country needed. And from what we see, he's doing a bloody good job !!there's one word for it

Envy

Trump delivers our mp's don't "

Lol lol. You forgot to put lol.

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Trump delivers our mp's don't

He's doing a splendid job of delivering at the moment. Government partially shut down so several hundred civil servants had to face Christmas without pay. Now in total gridlock with the newly sworn-in House of Representatives over his famous wall. "

Not ideal, I agree with you.

But the only reason he shut government down, was so he could attempt to deliver on another of his promises.- The Wall !

And many many more than several hundred people, voted for him because of his promise of a border wall.

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*oredEric By *oredEric  (M) 20 weeks ago

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Except he hasn't, he hasn't a hieved anything.

North Korea, no halt to their nuclear programme.

The Wall - no Mexican payment, the current shutdown

immigration - concentration camps for children.

Gin control - was in favour, then got at.

Russia - handed classified intel direct to Russian Intelligence in the Oval Office live on Russian TV against CIA advice

Emoluments - using the office to advance his personal wealth.

Golf - in 24 months he's spent six full month's playing golf.

International relations - he's insulted his allies, cosies up to dictators.

American economy - worse trading than prior to 1929 Wall Street crash.

Tax records - still not released.

Legal issues - several associates indicted in court and sentenced for issues over his election canpaign.

Trump Foundation - closed by the courts for irregularities and illegal operation for personal profit.

Insulted women, disabled, veterans, school shooting victims, dying politicians, dead politicians.

His behaviour around the Queen.

Of his statements 64% of them can be proven to be lies of varying magnitude.

Ecology - withdrew from the Paris accords.

Appoints cronies, lobbyists to positions they have no right to run, or are in thrall to vested interests.

Personal email server and unsecured mobile phone - uses them regularly but wants Clinton imprisoned for the same offence.

Mueller - if there's no collusion why's he so worried.

Coal - 64 jobs can be shown to have been created, hardly a return to work for the thousands who lost their jobs.

I'm not even warmed up, you consider this man a success? You must have pretty fucking low standards.

Finally Trump Casino. Casinos shit money, the drip with profit, they are a dream to own, the profits just roll in. See Las Vegas, Atlantic City, Monaco, etc. Trump Casino went bust.

Or is all of that, every item probable with facts, reports from reputable sources, even admitted by himself all fake news and you're happy to ignore all of it?

I wouldn't trust Trump to run an errand to get coffee, let alone run the USA.

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"Except he hasn't, he hasn't a hieved anything.

North Korea, no halt to their nuclear programme.

The Wall - no Mexican payment, the current shutdown

immigration - concentration camps for children.

Gin control - was in favour, then got at.

Russia - handed classified intel direct to Russian Intelligence in the Oval Office live on Russian TV against CIA advice

Emoluments - using the office to advance his personal wealth.

Golf - in 24 months he's spent six full month's playing golf.

International relations - he's insulted his allies, cosies up to dictators.

American economy - worse trading than prior to 1929 Wall Street crash.

Tax records - still not released.

Legal issues - several associates indicted in court and sentenced for issues over his election canpaign.

Trump Foundation - closed by the courts for irregularities and illegal operation for personal profit.

Insulted women, disabled, veterans, school shooting victims, dying politicians, dead politicians.

His behaviour around the Queen.

Of his statements 64% of them can be proven to be lies of varying magnitude.

Ecology - withdrew from the Paris accords.

Appoints cronies, lobbyists to positions they have no right to run, or are in thrall to vested interests.

Personal email server and unsecured mobile phone - uses them regularly but wants Clinton imprisoned for the same offence.

Mueller - if there's no collusion why's he so worried.

Coal - 64 jobs can be shown to have been created, hardly a return to work for the thousands who lost their jobs.

I'm not even warmed up, you consider this man a success? You must have pretty fucking low standards.

Finally Trump Casino. Casinos shit money, the drip with profit, they are a dream to own, the profits just roll in. See Las Vegas, Atlantic City, Monaco, etc. Trump Casino went bust.

Or is all of that, every item probable with facts, reports from reputable sources, even admitted by himself all fake news and you're happy to ignore all of it?

I wouldn't trust Trump to run an errand to get coffee, let alone run the USA."

Gin control is a bit harsh, I must admit ! Lol

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Golf - in 24 months he's spent six full month's playing golf...…. So in every 24hrs he devotes 6 hrs to golf???? That's more than any pro who ever lived ….. FAKE NEWS!

His behaviour around the Queen...… She's not HIS queen, so why should he give a shit? He's an ACTUAL leader, she isn't ……… get over it!

Ecology - withdrew from the Paris accords...… he can't be all bad, then ….

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M) 20 weeks ago

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Trump delivers our mp's don't

He's doing a splendid job of delivering at the moment. Government partially shut down so several hundred civil servants had to face Christmas without pay. Now in total gridlock with the newly sworn-in House of Representatives over his famous wall.

Not ideal, I agree with you.

But the only reason he shut government down, was so he could attempt to deliver on another of his promises.- The Wall !

And many many more than several hundred people, voted for him because of his promise of a border wall."

He has had 2 years with a Republican majority in the HOR and failed to get his Wall approved. Now the Democrats are in charge so little chance. His latest threat in to declare a state of emergency. He's behaving a bit like a spoilt kid who has been refused an ice cream. The dull thing is with all his non-achievements, U-turns, gaffes, tweets etc etc there is every chance he will be re-elected in 2 years time unless either the economy goes into total recession---which it could well do---or the Democrats come up with and outstanding candidate.

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"As much as people may dislike Trump, I do not!

Yeah, ok, he looks a bit weird. But that's not why he was elected President.

He was elected for his promises ! And thus far, he has delivered !

I don't remember one politician, home or abroad, that can boast his success rate. And I believe this is why politicians like to ridicule him!

The people elected a business man to run their country, because that's what the country needed. And from what we see, he's doing a bloody good job !!there's one word for it

Envy

Trump delivers our mp's don't

Lol lol. You forgot to put lol. "

lol maybe your trademark not mine lol

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By *annyboy87  (M) 20 weeks ago

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Trump maynot be ddoing a good but he's more or delivering on at leat 80% of his promises

Our party's only deliver 25% of their promises

What has Trump got to do with our country anyway

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M) 20 weeks ago

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"Trump maynot be ddoing a good but he's more or delivering on at leat 80% of his promises

Our party's only deliver 25% of their promises

"

Really? Where on earth did you conjure up those figures from? They really do sound like Fake News. So far he has failed on virtually all his promises and done more U-turns than an Alpine road.

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"Trump maynot be ddoing a good but he's more or delivering on at leat 80% of his promises

Our party's only deliver 25% of their promises

Really? Where on earth did you conjure up those figures from? They really do sound like Fake News. So far he has failed on virtually all his promises and done more U-turns than an Alpine road."

Sounds like your summing Mrs may up they lol

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*ordic-knight By *ordic-knight   premium paying member (M) 20 weeks ago

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"Trump maynot be ddoing a good but he's more or delivering on at leat 80% of his promises

Our party's only deliver 25% of their promises

Really? Where on earth did you conjure up those figures from? They really do sound like Fake News. So far he has failed on virtually all his promises and done more U-turns than an Alpine road.Sounds like your summing Mrs may up they lol"

Your constant attacks on Mrs May are getting quite tedious. I'm sure if she managed to produce a Brexit deal that was passed unanimously by parliament, 100% employment, a perfect NHS, a total end to all poverty etc. etc. you would still find fault with her. I'm surprised that on this site you haven't blamed her for things like timewasters and guys giving false details about themselves

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Gun not Gin. Sorry.

His golf, trumpgolfcount.com. they do it for a lot of recent Presidents.

Trump 154 rounds to the end of November.

Obama 306 rounds in Eight years.

GW Bush 24 rounds in Eight years.

Trump plays every 4th day.

Maybe having a buggy speeds up the round, on your own course you get a clear run, but I found it eats up most of the day, getting there, getting ready, playing, socialising after, it's not a quick game.

Plus of course it costs a small fortune each time he plays. Security detail, policing, charges he charges the IS Government for for parking, letting them on his courses, food and drink.

Nonwonder he plays three times a fortnight, he's effectively professional.

But I know verified, verifiable facts hold no attraction for supporters. Because Obama, because Hilary.

If you think withdrawing from the Paris accords was a good thing, in spite of every scientific report, including US Government departments showing global warming is a reality, despite the devastation in Puerto Rico, Texas, and other places from some of the most powerful and frequent hurricanes in recorded history, and other issues around the world, if you're happy to go along with that, well sorry, but you're a fucking moron.

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"Trump maynot be ddoing a good but he's more or delivering on at leat 80% of his promises

Our party's only deliver 25% of their promises

Really? Where on earth did you conjure up those figures from? They really do sound like Fake News. So far he has failed on virtually all his promises and done more U-turns than an Alpine road.Sounds like your summing Mrs may up they lol

Your constant attacks on Mrs May are getting quite tedious. I'm sure if she managed to produce a Brexit deal that was passed unanimously by parliament, 100% employment, a perfect NHS, a total end to all poverty etc. etc. you would still find fault with her. I'm surprised that on this site you haven't blamed her for things like timewasters and guys giving false details about themselves "

If Mrs may could do half of that she'd get my respect. But we both know she hasn't and most probably can't, well through your eyes she maybe

And what are you trying to say about our beloved Mrs may being on a men's gaysite.

I'm sure she is all woman and happily married. And is a good woman just not a good leader most of time

Or do you know something we all don't.

So how can she to be blamed for timewasters and false profiles not making sence there pal

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Totally agree with your analasis eric Trump was a spoilt brat until about the age of 30. Talked ridiculous right-wing capitalist greed is good bullsht about might being right.. and meritocracy being the law of the jungle to which we all have to adhere.Then as though being given trump towers was his own achievement he had a view of himself as a success.Trump towers was on the verge of filing for bankruptcy until Well known Jewish mafia related lawyer financiers took him under their wing and showed him the way.Via Sharp practices and possibly a huge tax and money laundering affair they managed to throw all of many company debts into a bundle with trump towers these were eventually rolled into one and all liabilities were rolled into trump casinos which went bancrupt but had no assets.. a master stroke but not down to trump.But financially he has never looked back and neither have the mafia... Mr Trump however is very concerned about this area of his finances becoming a target for inspection.But he is smoke and mirrors personified.and possibly a wiseguy in that nobody assassinated a mafia president.

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Or do you know something we all don't.

So how can she to be blamed for timewasters and false profiles not making sence there pal "

All I do know is that you have to turn every thread in the Politics Forum to your blind hatred of Mrs May. So I'm a little bit surprised you have not taken your 'mission' to threads about timewasters, rate-my-cock etc

Now this particular thread is about a certain Donald J Trump who currently resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, DC. He's a rather strange person with orange hair and a slightly unreal voice. Obsessed with building walls and tweeting. Ring any bells.

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Is that a Great Bull Tit, obsessed with building and tweeting and full of it?

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"Is that a Great Bull Tit, obsessed with building and tweeting and full of it?"

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"Is that a Great Bull Tit, obsessed with building and tweeting and full of it?

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"Is that a Great Bull Tit, obsessed with building and tweeting and full of it?"

Spot on

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Or do you know something we all don't.

So how can she to be blamed for timewasters and false profiles not making sence there pal

All I do know is that you have to turn every thread in the Politics Forum to your blind hatred of Mrs May. So I'm a little bit surprised you have not taken your 'mission' to threads about timewasters, rate-my-cock etc

Now this particular thread is about a certain Donald J Trump who currently resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, DC. He's a rather strange person with orange hair and a slightly unreal voice. Obsessed with building walls and tweeting. Ring any bells."

Mr nk

Not every thread as gone that way at all,

Yes I've gone on a bit on some but not even the one that's brought her up.

Well I know what you and other couple usual suspects are up to.

As a message got sent to wrong person (not by yourself by the way I'm not accussing as I know that you wouldn't do that) so I'm not going to get into any silly arguments.

I'll tell you what I won't even bother coming on your forum as much maybe once a week is that alright with you

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Or do you know something we all don't.

So how can she to be blamed for timewasters and false profiles not making sence there pal

All I do know is that you have to turn every thread in the Politics Forum to your blind hatred of Mrs May. So I'm a little bit surprised you have not taken your 'mission' to threads about timewasters, rate-my-cock etc

Now this particular thread is about a certain Donald J Trump who currently resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, DC. He's a rather strange person with orange hair and a slightly unreal voice. Obsessed with building walls and tweeting. Ring any bells."

I thnk you’re right on this one.

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All I do know is that you have to turn every thread in the Politics Forum to your blind hatred of Mrs May. So I'm a little bit surprised you have not taken your 'mission' to threads about timewasters, rate-my-cock etc ."

Regretfully this seems spot on!

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All I do know is that you have to turn every thread in the Politics Forum to your blind hatred of Mrs May. So I'm a little bit surprised you have not taken your 'mission' to threads about timewasters, rate-my-cock etc .

Regretfully this seems spot on!"

it would seem like every thread to a member of her fan club

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I don't think there are lots of members on here who consider themselves big fans of Mrs May but they possibly see your criticisms as wrong and unnecessary so tend to defend her position. I would say I'm in the camp myself.

Soon after I joined this site I read a thread you started which was titled "let's have some good reasons to like Mrs may" and it attracted 41 comments. The only person on that thread who was particularly critical of Mrs May was DannyBoy lol. not everyone was a fan and several offered the pros and cons but the criticisms hoped for were just not there.

If you are a supporter of Labour or a fan of Corbyn I can understand your dislike of a Tory government but even the most ardent critic of the Tories would find it difficult to find much about May to feel a strong detestation about the lady.

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"I don't think there are lots of members on here who consider themselves big fans of Mrs May but they possibly see your criticisms as wrong and unnecessary so tend to defend her position. I would say I'm in the camp myself.

Soon after I joined this site I read a thread you started which was titled "let's have some good reasons to like Mrs may" and it attracted 41 comments. The only person on that thread who was particularly critical of Mrs May was DannyBoy lol. not everyone was a fan and several offered the pros and cons but the criticisms hoped for were just not there.

If you are a supporter of Labour or a fan of Corbyn I can understand your dislike of a Tory government but even the most ardent critic of the Tories would find it difficult to find much about May to feel a strong detestation about the lady."

I'm not the only one that criticise Mrs may,on here or her own party

And for your information I made that thread to ask why we all should love Mrs may

The clue was in title iwas not looking for criticism, just asking. For her good points so end of day why would I be looking for critisism.

Yes I can go on abit but others say things to. Just that I'm an easy target for certain few to jump on

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I was trying to explain and point out what keeps happening and was in no way criticising you.

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"I was trying to explain and point out what keeps happening and was in no way criticising you. "

don't worry about it.

I didn't see it as critisism at all

We are all entitled to our opinion, you gave your opinion that's all,

And will take on your points and watch what I post in future

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I never really thought of myself as a Mrs May fan but like Mikey felt the need to defend her when she came under unceasing criticism mainly from Danny.

It's a British thing I think, if someone is being attacked then you tend to support the underdog after all she isn't here to defend herself!

For Danny I think it's like a moth to a flame, the very mention of her name requires a negative response. I genuinely believe you can't help it laddie

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I'll be generous towards her. Its her bad luck that she's heading a government that has gone completely the wrong way about tackling Brexit. That said, if the head honcho of a listed company fails to meet targets, then he's a gonner … why should she be treated any differently?

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By *orderguard  (M) 19 weeks ago

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I'm not Mrs May's number one fan. Then I look at the alternatives in her own party and the shower on the opposition benches. Then I suddenly think Hey she's pretty good after all.

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"I'll be generous towards her. Its her bad luck that she's heading a government that has gone completely the wrong way about tackling Brexit. That said, if the head honcho of a listed company fails to meet targets, then he's a gonner … why should she be treated any differently?"

exactly and that's not being negative

I'm agreeing. With fact

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"I'll be generous towards her. Its her bad luck that she's heading a government that has gone completely the wrong way about tackling Brexit. That said, if the head honcho of a listed company fails to meet targets, then he's a gonner … why should she be treated any differently?"

But she's only failed from the point of view of the extreme Brexiteers who want a no-deal Brexit and to hell with the consequences.

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"I'll be generous towards her. Its her bad luck that she's heading a government that has gone completely the wrong way about tackling Brexit. That said, if the head honcho of a listed company fails to meet targets, then he's a gonner … why should she be treated any differently?

But she's only failed from the point of view of the extreme Brexiteers who want a no-deal Brexit and to hell with the consequences."

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"I'll be generous towards her. Its her bad luck that she's heading a government that has gone completely the wrong way about tackling Brexit. That said, if the head honcho of a listed company fails to meet targets, then he's a gonner … why should she be treated any differently?

But she's only failed from the point of view of the extreme Brexiteers who want a no-deal Brexit and to hell with the consequences."

I think you are wrong about its only extreme Brexiteers that says it is available deal and want no deal

As I see it no one really want a no deal exit and it's only remainers that say it's a good deal.

People can go on about business people are liking it but they would if it's right about the deal means we still have our big toe in EU

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There is no other deal available. The EU say they are not renegotiating so it basically comes down to this deal or no deal. People voted to leave for all manners of reason and certainly not everyone wants a no deal Brexit.

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"There is no other deal available. The EU say they are not renegotiating so it basically comes down to this deal or no deal. People voted to leave for all manners of reason and certainly not everyone wants a no deal Brexit."

but this why Mrs may should have drafted two or three different deals and put them to her party to see which would be best one to present to EU

Instead of being stubborn it's my way or no way

Something this big should have been done as a team, well bigger team that's done this deal

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It's taken a very long time to come up with one deal, a massive 500 page deal, with a very reluctant EU Commission that do not want us to leave. So the chances are any other deals would taken a long time to negotiate and would probably be less favourable. A 'Norwegian Style' deal has been mentioned but that would tie us into the EU even more than the current one.

Also there is a team negotiating this. Mrs May attends summits with the other 27 leaders but she has a team working with her. Plus three cabinet colleagues--Brexit Secretary, Foreign Secretary, Trade Secretary---are very much involved with these negotiations.

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"It's taken a very long time to come up with one deal, a massive 500 page deal, with a very reluctant EU Commission that do not want us to leave. So the chances are any other deals would taken a long time to negotiate and would probably be less favourable. A 'Norwegian Style' deal has been mentioned but that would tie us into the EU even more than the current one.

Also there is a team negotiating this. Mrs May attends summits with the other 27 leaders but she has a team working with her. Plus three cabinet colleagues--Brexit Secretary, Foreign Secretary, Trade Secretary---are very much involved with these negotiations."

yes I realise it's a long difficult process.

But while doing it I'm sure there was parts where she and her team had chance to have afew ideas.

It was something I would have tried not saying it would work though,

But I would have had more time on my hands as I wouldn't have called an unnecessary general election.

Let's get this get back to subject at least we haven't got Trump

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Trump is doing exactly what he promised and exactly what people in the UK have been asking for.

"bulding a wall" exactly what some people figurativly speaking want for the UK.

Pulling out of foreign wars, how many times has that been mentioned on here

Concentrating on making America "great Again", again could be taken from UKIPs manifesto for Brexit.

Double standards me thinks by some!!!

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"Trump is doing exactly what he promised and exactly what people in the UK have been asking for.

"bulding a wall" exactly what some people figurativly speaking want for the UK.

Pulling out of foreign wars, how many times has that been mentioned on here

Concentrating on making America "great Again", again could be taken from UKIPs manifesto for Brexit.

Double standards me thinks by some!!!

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Well said. And when it comes to this type of xenophobia, building a wall/fence is arguably more 'humane' than shooting people out of the water as some bigots on here have suggested.

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"I'll be generous towards her. Its her bad luck that she's heading a government that has gone completely the wrong way about tackling Brexit. That said, if the head honcho of a listed company fails to meet targets, then he's a gonner … why should she be treated any differently?

But she's only failed from the point of view of the extreme Brexiteers who want a no-deal Brexit and to hell with the consequences."

Err …. she called an election when Labour were at their lowest ebb ….. good decision, but then proceeded to bollocks it up completely by announcing all sorts of ridiculous policies that affected her core vote. Compounded by the fact that she refused to listen to the advice of her cabinet and other senior tory MPs, preferring a tight circle of spads to run things at a super critical time and in full view of everyone …….. crazy!! Thereafter, she has been fighting a rearguard action with duff ammo. Whats more, she just isn't believable in anything she comes out with. She forever spouts her mantra, "strong and stable" and that's about it...…. nice shoes, though ..

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Back to Trump by way of light relief from the constant banging on about how 'armchair politicians' could produce the perfect Brexit.

I have some sympathy with Trump over his wall. The USA is a vast country and several states are far bigger in area than the whole of the UK. Also the USA was built on migration. However uncontrolled migration puts a strain on everything and there is plenty of poverty, unemployment and other problems amongst the multi-generational Americans. Also few of these migrants are refugees. Most, if not all, Latin American countries have democratic governments after a fashion and are not in the grips of civil war. So these are basically economic migrants convinced they will get a better life in the USA.. Trump's claim that the Mexicans would fund his wall was always a bit delusional. Possibly swayed the outcome of the Mexican presidential election. If he couldn't get Congress to agree when his party had a majority I can't see him doing it now. This wall situation could be the main topic of next years presidential election if it is not resolved.

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The idea that a wall would stop the migrants coming is ridiculous and would be a total waste of money. We have a “wall” 20 miles wide and still they get through.

The only way to make a wall work is to copy the Berlin Wall and have mine fields and gun towers, even then they would sail around it or tunnel under it or fly over it.

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Had an illegal migrant message me for a meet , he was in Calais , for some reason he didn't turn up.

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"The idea that a wall would stop the migrants coming is ridiculous and would be a total waste of money. We have a “wall” 20 miles wide and still they get through.

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With that sort of logic we might as well just open up the tunnel and give them a passport on the way. Its called a deterrent, its another obstacle that can be used to slow them down, it can be patrolled electrically monitored etc etc.

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Migrants pay criminals a lot of money to bypass any security measures we put in place, the only way to stop this is to stop the demand. If the migrants are informed of the true risks they are taking they would think twice before handing over their money. If they also knew that they could not work here to repay the money laid out and that they would be deported after a stay in a detention centre then the flow of migrants would reduce.

Every story of a successful migration encourages others to follow, equally every debt laden failure will deter. We need to make sure the disasters are well publicised in the originating countries.

Of course the best way to stop illegal immigration is help poor countries to become richer so people don’t want to leave.

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Of course some still get through/across/over, irrespective of what stands in their way. But from our point of view its the French that have to take responsibility. They have allowed them to cross their border, illegally. They just can't then let them camp on their north western coastline and hope they disappear somewhere. They are then assisting the criminals who are extracting vast sums from these hopeful people. I read that £13,000 is a common sum that is paid. A ten man dinghy and an outboard is a small outlay, especially if you stuff it with 20 people …..There you go, England is that way, and thanks for your £250,000! ….. next!! …… the profits are enormous, to the point where serious organised crime must be involved. A lot is known about the perpetrators of big crime. Maybe its time that people stopped pussyfooting around and took out some of these people...… with or without proof that would stand up in a court of law. There isn't another way of dealing with really serious crime if we're to be brutally honest. The tail started wagging the dog, many years ago, unfortunately.

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Clearly there is no political will in France to deal with the situation, they seem to think it’s our fault for attracting them. They of course have their own problems over immigration and if they can keep a few thousand off their statistics by doing nothing then for them it’s a win win.

The open borders within the EU means people can move from any entry point to the EU, whether Spain,Italy or Greece, to Calais with no problems. I can understand that the French might feel that the problem should be dealt with before it reaches them.

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"Clearly there is no political will in France to deal with the situation, they seem to think it’s our fault for attracting them. They of course have their own problems over immigration and if they can keep a few thousand off their statistics by doing nothing then for them it’s a win win.

The open borders within the EU means people can move from any entry point to the EU, whether Spain,Italy or Greece, to Calais with no problems. I can understand that the French might feel that the problem should be dealt with before it reaches them."

Two points here. The EU is not a country, and the rules for asylum seeking quite clearly state the responsibilities of COUNTRIES. If they have a passport, then we can do nothing, but as the vast majority do not have a passport, they can only be seen as asylum seekers, and its is clearly not within the rules for France to move them on, but to return them whence they came.

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The latest from the White House is that instead of going there for a state banquet you get a takeaway. Good old Donny. He's really cocking things up and turning his presidency into a farce.

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There should never have taken that straight jacket of Trump

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